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The Popularity of Scratch Card Game in Online Gambling

Chance or luck game is truly popular because most people think they can win and get the instant winning without working so hard on their game when gambling. It means, they don’t need to think hard for beating other players or even dealer to be the last man standing. One of the chance games players love to play is Scratch Cards. Back then, you played this game directly on spot but now, you can find it in online casino and you can buy many cards either.

The Chance to Win Scratch Card Game in Online Gambling

As you know, online casino can be said as the home to many different types of game that can give you the real money prize if you win the game no matter what the ways you use. Perhaps, most of you are so familiar with Roulette, Blackjack and Slot machine. However, there are also some different sbobet casino games you can choose and those are available in the http://112.140.187.63 site. Many players don’t want or don’t like using knowledge, head or skill to play because they want to get the instant winning.

They choose the chance or luck game instead of strategy game. One of the most popular games to choose is Scratch Cards. Those can increase your own financial condition once you win the game and hit the correct numbers. Back then, you will buy the cards and then scratch them with coin and you have to see it with the outcome number whether your number is similar with the outcome or not. If your number is similar with the outcome, then you can get maximum amount of money from this.

Literally, this is the chance game and when you play it in online version, the game will be controlled by RNG or Random Number Generator. Scratch game also has the pre-determined odds when you choose it. That is why, if you play this game, you need to select the games that will offer the highest RTP just like other games of casino. When you play the Scratch Cards online, you might think this game is so appealing. You may choose the cost of each card and you can scratch your spaces on the card to know the symbols.

The Scratch Card Game Nowadays in Online Gambling Site

The match symbols will be based on the pay table to win. All payouts will be added to your account of sbobet casino instantly. Most online casinos are found everywhere and you don’t have to scratch manually. Those may be revealed by single click you do. All scratch card games in sbobet sites will require any skill but they will provide the winning chance to win the great payout. Some games may be linked to the progressive jackpots and others will offer the great massive returns.

Playing this game is so easy but to win it, you need luck. As long as you get the matching symbols, you can win the game and the more matching symbols you can get from the card, the more amount you will get. People love playing it but just like other luck games, Scratch card has the high house edge and it means, you can get less payout. Perhaps, you will deposit the money more and more but you will not get anything in return. That is why, you need to play wisely and use your money better.

Additionally, some Scratch Card games have many ways to win the game. For example, you choose the Rocky Scratch Card as the version. In this game, the players need to choose the opponent to fight against Rocky. The will click on the card to know the outcome of this fight and if Rocky wins the fight, you will get the random cash amount. There is another version too you can choose such as Roulette scratch card. In this game, the players may scratch the Roulette wheel to know the winning number.

They may scratch the other spaces to see if they have the matching number similar with the wheel. They are more popular among players who don’t like strategy game at all. Somehow, they know that this is almost impossible for them to win the game in short time. However, they know that online gambling has the deep relation with luck and they will wait for luck to come and after that, they could maximize the betting amount and win much to cover the loss.

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Betting Options With Poker Chips to Avoid in Blackjack

Somehow, you need to know the important thing in Blackjack of gambling online instead of betting without understanding things to avoid.

Many people choose Blackjack to play because it has the lowest house edge and it is almost 0%. Who doesn’t want that advantage? The lower the house edge is, the bigger chance to get the highest return. However, there is also something you need to avoid in this situs poker online and this is the insurance bet because the house edge is so high and you can’t get the guarantee to win this game with poker chips even though you try so hard to win the game and you still get disadvantage.

Why You Have to Avoid Insurance in Blackjack

It is not only your life that needs insurance but in Blackjack, some players might need insurance. However, insurance in this game gives you the high house edge and if you keep playing it, you will get disadvantage. Not many people understand the use of insurance and also when they can use the insurance. If the up card of dealer is an ace, then she will ask you if you want and need insurance. This is called as the side bet on whether the dealer has 10 in the hole or known as the natural 10.

This bet really has the high house edge so it is better for you to avoid it when gambling online using Blackjack with poker chips as your main game. You must not take it at all. Meanwhile, when the dealer will show the ace and you might have the natural Blackjack inside, the dealer may offer you the term “even money”. It is another way to make you take the insurance and you have to refuse the offer. You will not take any insurance and also even money at all. You just need to keep playing as you always do anytime.

Even money will work at the worst time. For example, you have about $10. If the dealer may show the ace and you have natural Blackjack but you take the even money, the dealer may pay you the same amount which is $10 and after that, it is over. You will get the guarantee of $10 no matter what the dealer holds. If you reject the even money, you will get the payment around 3:2 or about $15 as long as the dealer doesn’t hold natural Blackjack. You may push but you win nothing when the dealer also has natural.

The Payout of Blackjack Table You Must Avoid

Most dealers including players think that players should take guarantee or insurance or even money because it can give payout. If you refuse this feature, then you may risk the winning. You will miss about 69% of your time while dealer has no natural at all and you may get the payout around 3:2. It makes up your time when you push and you will get nothing. The fact is, the insurance’s house edge is more than 6%. Somehow, many people are not so confident to refuse the even money in this game.

Perhaps most people will accept it because it is the dealer who suggests it and dealer knows everything for the sake of the players. However, you will enter the trap because most dealers are trained so hard to deal the game but it doesn’t mean that they know about odds. Most dealers never cracked the book or the website related to the game. You also need to choose the table that will pay you more on the game. No need to think about high prize when you don’t know what is good for you.

At several tables, the natural payout might be 6:5 and not 3:2. It will make the odds become 4 times worse than before. It means, you can lose the money 4 times faster. That is why, it is better not to choose 6:5 of the payout on certain table. It is easy to see this payment on Blackjack tables and most people who don’t know will choose it because they want to get much money. When you only play with single deck on Blackjack, then you can choose 6:5 payout but when you play with several decks, it is better to choose the normal payout for your safety.

If you are really willing to place your money on 6:5 game, you need to realize that the more players choose it, the more likely the situs poker in http://69.10.34.84 may convert the remaining games to high payout. For your own safety, you need to choose the normal payout at least 3:2 without going more for your own safety.

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Slashes on the dash

The engineers who designed the dashboard controls for our VW Eurovan must have loved fractions.  The tachometer (a questionably useful feature on a van equipped with an automatic transmission) is marked in large increments labeled “10”, “20”, ‘”30”, etc.  In the lower-left corner, this system is explained by the legend: “1/minute x 100”.

If they had simply marked each increment “1000”, “2000”, etc. then they could have simplified the legend to “1/minute” or even the generally recognized “RPM”.  And if the extra zeroes were deemed inefficient, then why not label them “1”, “2”, etc., and change the legend to “1/minute x 1000”?

Perhaps an appreciation for this feat of German engineering lies beyond my lights.

One day, my wife called home on her mobile phone while driving (which is now illegal in Washington) to tell me that the Eurovan was almost out of fuel.  “But I just filled it up!” I cried.

“Well, the needle is right on the line now, so someone must have siphoned off our gas,” replied my wife.

I didn’t have much time to worry about who might have come onto our property to steal fuel, because I needed to catch a ferry as soon as my wife returned – and now I had to worry about taking enough time to fill up the tank en route.  As soon as my wife drove up, we exchanged a hurried greeting and I took off.  Worried that I might run out of gas before I got to the station, I glanced down at the gauge.  It was full.

But I can’t fault my wife too much.  The gauge does not sport the helpful letters “E” and “F” that have become so familiar to American motorists.  No, the VW engineers decided that since they needed to label the midpoint “1/2”, it made perfect sense to be consistent and mark the full end of the spectrum with “1/1”.  They did not label the empty end, however.

I would have expected “1/∞”, or something equally well defined.

Tags: design, eurovan, vw
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Homeward

Written on the plane last night

I’m seated by the window of a Boeing 737-400 on our way back to the Boeing mother-nest, Seattle.  The SPC went very well, I think.  The workshops, especially those presented by Steve Ives, did justice to what is without any hype the most significant release in the 30+ year history of the Synergy/DE product line.

As for me, I avoided getting hammered the night before my presentation. Back in the day, I could party all night with customers and give three or four presentations the next day on four hours of sleep and some Tylenol, but for better or worse I’ve gotten unused to that behavior in my advancing age.   I got to bed rather early that night, and I prepared better for that session than any I have ever presented before.  So I had no excuse for a bad performance other than by own ineptitude — but I think it went off well anyway.

I also had the opportunity to say a few words in honor of Ken Lidster, my mentor, who is retiring this year.  Ken was one of the two original creators of Synergy/DE (then called DBL), and his understanding of programming language theory and design continue to inspire me.  I’m hoping that Ken will find it difficult to stay uninvolved in the language, and that I’ll have plenty of opportunities to work with him in the future.

Besides Ken, Inge King is also retiring this year.  She’s my sales representative (I’m also a customer of Synergex), but more than that she’s a great friend of both my wife and I.  But I expect to see even more of her and her husband in the future, as they have a daughter and grandchildren living in the Seattle area.

Liz Marmins interviewed me on tape regarding Synergy/DE version 9 and the SPC.  No doubt they’ll edit out my repetitious babbling and make me look like I know what I’m saying.  When it gets posted on their web site, I’ll link to it — no matter how embarassing it turns out to be.  I’m such an exhibitionist.

It was good to reconnect with so many of these people after all these years, but I’m glad to be heading home.  After the two-hour flight, I’ll catch a ride  to downtown Seattle where I’ll take the 35-minute ferry ride to Bainbridge.  There I’ll catch a cab home — probably after midnight.  I’m hoping that I was missed and will be appreciated, but I fear that revenge may be in the cards instead.  We’ll see.  Maybe a combination.

Tags: bainbridge, boeing, ferry, ingeking, kenlidster, lizmarmins, programming, seattle, spc, synergex, synergyde, travel
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Random 8

Catching up on meme-tags, here’s one I owe to Tish:

The Rules:

  • Players start with 8 random facts about themselves.
  • Those who are tagged should post these rules and their 8 random facts.
  • Players should tag eight other people and notify them that they have been tagged.

Eight random facts about yours truly:

  1. I like food that’s so spicy that most people can’t eat it, and some folks can’t even stand to be nearby while it’s cooking.
  2. As a US Air Force brat born in West Germany, I nearly reached the East German border alone one day when my parents weren’t watching.
  3. I’ve lived in Germany, New York, Texas, Maryland, Virginia, Oklahoma, Florida, California, and Washington State in roughly that order.  I’ve never lived in any one home for longer than eight years.
  4. I love to travel – by plane is OK, but driving is far better.  Unfortunately, circumstances keep me at home most of the time.
  5. I fell madly in love with a girl when we were both in second grade.  She rejected my advances (go figure), and I never fully got over it.  I’ve been far too careful with my heart ever since, although I’ve rarely lacked someone to love throughout my adult life.
  6. When I was in the third grade, I was on a live local TV quiz show.  As part of the introductions, the emcee asked me what was my favorite game.  I replied, “Poker.”
  7. Music for me can be almost any genre, as long as the creator(s) put everything they have into it – no holding something back for later.  Each piece of music should be written as if it were their last.
  8. I’d like to be able to say that I live each day as if it were my last, but that wouldn’t be true.  I’m often sulky, keep things to myself, and ignore my loved ones.  Sometimes I even sincerely wish for death.  Then at other times when enjoying life to the point of feeling a buzz in my scalp, I wonder how it was possible that I could have ever been possessed of such weltschmerz.  It makes me believe that my brain is a highly volatile chemical compound over which I have less control than I’d like.

Hmm.  Seems like some of these could be developed into full-blown posts of their own.

Now for 8 random tags:

8.times { |n| puts(blogroll[Integer(rand * blogroll.length)]) }

Gabrielle
Michael
Aki
Diogenes
Scott
Darrell
Cooper
Danielle

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Bullying starts with bull

I’m not ready to declare meme-debt bankruptcy yet, so I’ll tackle another tag today.  Here’s one from Randy about bullying.  You’ll have to read his post first to know what the questions mean.

Am I a bad person, if I’m happy to know that the bully did not live a full life?

Randy was pleased to hear that someone who had bullied him died in an accident while they were both still young.  I can appreciate Randy’s sense of vindication and relief from further bullying.  But if you go on to say “he deserved it” then you’re saying that bullying merits a death penalty.  I don’t think I’d want to go quite that far.

Were you bullied as a kid?

Are you kidding?  If I had allowed anyone to bully me, I would not have been able to look my father in the eye.  He taught me how to fight when I was very small, often forcing me to continue until one of us drew blood.  I hated that, but it did prepare me for the playground.  My Dad always said, “Never start a fight — but always be the one to end it.”

One day early in my first grade year, a sixth grader decided to pick on me, and started punching me in the arm.  Without passion or anger, I followed my father’s advice and gave him a swift one to the nose.  He ran off, and I was never bothered on the playground again.  Naturally, someone reported this event to my teacher, who could not understand the logic of my actions, and punished me (with a spanking, ironically).  Very conflicted, I related all of this to my father that night.  He expounded a long and thorough explanation about how society often punishes you for doing what you must, replete with examples from his Air Force career.  Then he said he hoped that I had endured my spanking proudly, and congratulated me for standing up for myself.  My Dad should have been born in ancient Sparta.

Was bullying as rampant in your schools, as they were in mine?

Bullying was common, especially on the playground and the buses — but I don’t think it was as pervasive as Randy described.  I often felt compelled to intervene on behalf of those who wouldn’t stick up for themselves.  In those cases, it never came to blows — a well-aimed “pick on someone your own size” usually answered the purpose.

What happened to the bullies in your school?

Despite the fact that I was immediately reported for defending myself, nobody ever reported bullying to teachers.  Most were afraid that they would become more attractive targets if they did.  For me, I didn’t think telling teachers would do any good, judging from the justice I had received at their hands.

So instead, a silent culture developed — much like in a prison.  The best way to divert the unwanted attentions of bullies was to reveal them for the cowards that they were.  A satirical comment to others in their hearing about how they needed to pick on the weak would usually do the trick — but you always had to be willing to back that up with physical measures if it had the opposite effect.

But times have changed.  I don’t advise my children to get physical.  I do advise them to tell their teachers.  I believe that schools handle bullying more thoroughly and justly than they did when I was young. I hope to hell I’m not mistaken.

Was it just the boys, or did the girls bully too?

The girls were often worse — to other girls.  It’s a good thing that girls back then hardly ever picked on boys, because I would never have been able to use even the threat of violence as a defense.  My father taught me that striking a woman for any cause was the lowest form of low.  To even imply that you might do so would be a blemish on yoru character that could never be removed.

Sometimes it’s hard to realize just how divided the sexes were in those days.  The girls managed their own culture separately from the boys, for the most part.  I can recall only one time where I stepped in to reprove a girl my age for picking on someone smaller.  That happened on the school bus, and the only tool I could employ was to shame her.  Luckily, I’ve always had a way with words.

Were you the bully?

No.  I never picked a fight or pushed people around.  Even in defending myself, my conscience was always stung by my Baptist upbringing and Jesus’ command to “turn the other cheek”.  In fact, I became a radical religious pacifist by age 15 — abrogating even self-defense, much to the chagrin of my father – but somehow I had already established myself in the social hierarchy at school such that I never had to test my commitment to that creed.

I’ve never understood the mind that needs to subjugate others to its will, against theirs.  People are generally enough trouble as it is — why would you want to churn up resentment against yourself and make things worse?  I don’t want to get all psychoanalytic on you, but I can only think that a bully must have no life worth living – or they wouldn’t need that type of diversion.  So back to your first question, Randy — maybe his death was merciful.

I’d like to tag a few people who came to mind as imagined readers while I was writing this post: Shelley, Shelley, Joseph, apotheon, Jessica, TDavid, Kent, Doug, and Cooper (sorry for the quick re-tag).  Tell us about your experiences with bullies in school.  As always, anyone else who would like to participate, feel free and I’ll give you some linkage.  I’d really like to tag Kathy, but I don’t think she’d answer.

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Stuffing the blogroll

Kent tagged me for round two of his swivel feeds experiment.  To recap: Kent, bored with many of his feeds, gutted his feed reader.  With only the meat and bones left, Kent asked for help with the stuffing.

So trying to keep your particular tastes in mind, here are my contributions to the recipe, Kent:

  1. 1 teaspoon dried leaf sage, crumbled:  indexed by Jessica Hagy.  Jessica packs a lot of flavor into a small space — a chart on an index card.
  2. 1/2 cup finely chopped celery:  [Geeks Are Sexy] Technology News.  Even though you read a lot of tech news feeds already, I like [GAS] because it’s succinct and well-written.  OK, and they also had me contribute some posts (shameless self-promo disclaimed).  Adds crunch.
  3. 3 tablespoons finely chopped onion:  Middle Zone Musings, by Robert Hruzek.  Robert always gives you something to laugh about as well as something to think about.  Flavor and texture.
  4. 6 tablespoons melted butter:  The Marketing Technology Blog, by Doug Karr.  Doug covers a lot of ground, from, um, marketing to, um, technology — and he carries on great conversations with his readers.  Gives consistency to the whole.
  5. 1/8 teaspoon cayenne pepper:  Wonderland or Not, by cooper.  Cooper => Alice => Wonderland… or not.  An insightful 22-year-old anthropology student with an edgy sense of humor.  Adds zing.

Hope you enjoy my contributions, Kent!

Tags: blogroll, blogs, dougkarr, geeksaresexy, jessicahagy, kentnewsome, roberthruzek, swivelfeeds, wonderlandornot
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Chipping the web – the sum of digital power

A piano has a total of 88 keys, counting both the black and white ones.

TDavid sent me some help for thinking of subtitles for these “Chipping the web” posts: What’s Special About This Number?  So if you’re puzzled by my titles in future, this might be a good place to look.  Hint: some other good sources are Google and Wikipedia.

The World RPS Society, serving the needs of decision makers since 1918 — via Rock, Paper, Scissors.  Their explanations of the nuances of various gambits are jaw-dropping.

Try reading this in a GWB voice (thanks, Jim).

Darrell and Cooper responded to my tag on the Random 8 meme, and Kent responded to my tag on the Bullying meme.  You can’t accuse Kent of being stingy with the Google juice.

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Still smiling

This little icon of yours truly has become my online visual proxy in a number of fora (that’s plural of “forum” for the Latinally challenged), including Technorati, TechRepublic, MyBloglog, BlogCatalog, Gravatar, and who knows where else that I’ve forgotten that I dropped my pixels. But have you ever wondered (oh to imagine my vast following of groupies) whence cometh said image? Well, wonder no more!  Behold, the full image from which this icon was clipped.

I’m standing on the beach belonging to our former home on Rich Passage.  This was the last day that we visited that beach, being under contract for sale.  It was a bittersweet day.  We loved that place — at low tide we had about 100 feet of beach from our house to the ocean, and at high tide you could cast a line from our upper deck and hit the water.

Sometimes at night the deer would walk down to the beach and lick the salt off the rocks.  I often miss the sound of the waves breaking on the shore while I was drifting off to sleep.

Why did we leave there?  The lot was a grand 0.19 acres, and half of that was under water at high tide.  Our children had no place to play.  The road, which was within twenty feet of our front door, was getting busier every day.  And every available square yard of land around us was being built up with grand houses overlooking the Passage and destroying our peace.

Our children needed a place to ride bicycles.  Our fifteen-year-old dog passed away, and we wanted to get a new puppy (which turned out to be Halley), but we had no room for an active dog to run around.

So, we sold our waterfront dream home and bought a place on 2.35 acres surrounded by huge cedars and hemlocks.  We can’t see our next door neighbors.  Our kids can ride their bikes for hours and never leave our property.  Our dog has a huge run.

But sometimes I miss the water.  Early every morning I would walk along the shore.  On a clear day, I would pause to gaze at Mount Rainer.  I took this picture on one such walk.

This was about a mile from our house.  Another quarter mile brought me to the Treehouse Cafe, run by my good friend Arnie.  He was just getting started in his own business there when I first visited.  Now he’s booming — rented more space in Linwood Center, installed taps.  He’s fathered two kids since then and hardly shows up on weekends.  I’m happy for his success.

Many times while the sky was still black I’d show up at his doorstep before opening time, but he’d let me in and pour me a Triple Americano Grande with cream.  He and I would philosophize while I sipped the strong brew and he prepared for the day’s business.

One day in mid-winter, the cold rain beat upon me as I advanced along the shore in the darkness.  But the lights at the Treehouse ahead promised dry air and hot coffee.  I lurched through the door and threw the hood off my head in the warmth.  Arnie greeted me and introduced me to Bill, who was seated at a table, sipping a cup and eating a bagel.

Bill was a retired trucker from Arlington, Massachusetts (that’s pronounced AH-lingten Mass) who took a part-time job delivering the bagels from Port Townsend.  The Treehouse was his southernmost delivery, so he would relax with a cup of coffee and a bite of something before heading back home.  He greeted me with a big handshake and asked me to sit down at the table with him.  We hit it off instantly.

At one pause in the conversation, Bill sighed.  “Have you ever had to deal with the approaching death of a pet?”  I had — just a few months before, our beloved fifteen-year-old Samoyed had passed away in her sleep.  Bill revealed that his seventeen-year-old dog was on his last legs.  We got to talking about dogs of ours that had gone before.

“The last time this happened, I swore I’d never own another, ” Bill said.  “After that one died, you’d never want to see a sorrier sight than this rough old trucker driving his big rig down the turnpike and blubbering like a baby.”

“I know how you feel, ” I replied.  “You can stand beside the casket of your own parent whom you mourn bitterly, and nevertheless be aware of their faults in life — as much as you love them.  But a dog only ever wants to please its master.

Once when I was a sapling Southern Baptist, I asked my great-grandmother the question that was always difficult for other church members: “Do dogs go to heaven?”

She replied, “Well, son — of the dogs I have known, if they didn’t deserve heaven, then no people do.”

Bill slapped his big palm on the heavy oak table and declared “Isn’t that the truth!”  We talked for an hour or more on many subjects.  After that, Friday conversations with Bill became a regular event.

When we were preparing to move, I told Bill that my new home was too far away to make it to the Treehouse even once a week.  We traded phone numbers and promised to keep in touch.

But neither of us ever called.  I think we both knew that the same ongoing conversation couldn’t be transplanted out of the Treehouse, away from the big oak table, two cups of coffee, and Arnie cleaning up behind the counter, getting ready to open for the day.

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wOOt!

What a relief!  Last night I finished planning my OO presentation for the SPC and sent the PowerPoint slides to Synergex.  I’m looking forward to giving this talk, but lots of other things had kept me away from working on it, and the deadline for slides was today.

It’s been about five years since I last presented at a conference, and I’m taking quite a different approach with this one.  Usually in the past, I would write my presentation as bullets (essentially the overheads) and just talk from them.  That worked OK, provided I was lucky.  And alert.  And not too nervous.

But typically, I’d talk too fast and forget half of what I meant to say, and end up at the “Questions?” slide about half-way through the allotted time, with nobody asking any questions because they hadn’t even begun to follow any of the jargon-laced broken sentences with which I peppered them like so many live rounds — the “ums” acting as tracers.

Or else in trying to avoid that scenario I would pack my slides full of content so there would be no way to run out.  Which resulted in me talking even faster and flipping through the last slides just as time expired, finishing off with “Questions? OK, great.  Thanks, bye.”

This time, I started by writing my presentation out longhand.  This came very naturally to me, now that I’ve been blogging for over a year.  It only took me a couple of days to write it, almost as if it were a lengthy blog post (in fact, I used Windows Live Writer to compose it).   From that, I went back and created my slides.  Some of the slides act like graphics for the post, others outline certain sections of it.  So when I present, I’ll be more or less repeating my narrative and flipping the slides that go with it.  I’m thinking that will be quite a bit more natural and interesting than flipping to a slide, studying it for a moment, and then trying to think of what I meant to say.

Another difference that five years has brought:  I’ll be referring to blog posts for the first time in a presentation.  Specifically, Steve Yegge’s Execution in the Kingdom of Nouns and Chad Perrin’s OOP and the death of modularity.  It may seem strange to use ostensibly anti-OOP posts in a presentation on the benefits of OOP, but both of their arguments really zero in on what bad OO design looks like — even when it’s necessitated by a lack of language capabilities.  I hope to use their points to indicate by contrast what constitutes good OO design, and how that’s supported by Synergy/DE 9.

Now I just need to figure out how to keep Richard and Steve from getting me thoroughly boiled as an owl the night before.  <O,O>

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